Talk: Samus (Super Smash Bros. Brawl)

I don't think that was a charge shot in SE. It looked more like a....funky missle, if I do say so myself.--Oxico 06:39, December 21, 2007 (EST)

I agree... ~Crystal_Lucario 07:11, December 21, 2007 (EST)

It probably wasn't. It looked like the missle from Melee. So I think we might want to stick with that. Any objections? Hamstermilitary 16:36, December 21, 2007 (EST)

acording to somone that is a smash attack super missle so dont change it

~Crystal_Lucario 16:56, December 21, 2007 (EST)

...ok then, that made no sense. Look, it is a missle, so I am going to change it. Case close. (Bangs gavel).--Oxico 17:22, December 23, 2007 (EST)

Great Maze Easter Egg

You know when you fight dark characters in the Great Maze? Well, how Dark Samus's stage is set up resembles Planet Zebes from the original Super Smash Bros., minus the moving platform. BrawlFan181's Talk Page

Alt Costume Trivia

Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling the pink alternate costume is based off of Metroid Zero Mission's Gravity Suit. The Gravity suit in Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion are purple, but the one in Zero Mission looks more pink, in my opinion. You can take a look at the sprites here: [1] I think the trivia section should include this along with the three other costumes based on suits from other games. XIronGolemx (talk) 02:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Costume information generally belongs over on the appropriate palette swap page. Toomai Glittershine eXemplary Logic 02:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Changed the title of this topic from Pink Alt Costume to Alt Costume Trivia. I disagree with the recent edit that states the brown palette swap is based off of Metroid Prime's Phazon Suit. The Phazon Suit is more black, while MP2's Dark Suit is more brown. You can see it for yourself: Phazon Suit [2], and Dark Suit [3]. The fact that the Dark Suit is a different shape doesn't mean the brown palette swap couldn't be based off of it. After all, the blue palette is very different from the Fusion Suit's shape [4]. What do you guys think? Also, in the future, if this piece of trivia begins to cause too much trouble (ie. lots of edits again and again because of differences in thought, I'm also in favor of removing this piece of trivia altogether, since like Toomai stated above, palette swap info might probably be better off left to its own page.) XIronGolemx (talk) 10:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Grapple Beam or Grappling Beam?

I think the name of Samus' grab should be changed from Grapple Beam to Grappling Beam. There's a key difference between the two. The Grappling Beam fires from her Arm Cannon, while the Grapple Beam fires from her left hand, be it a another cannon (Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2: Echoes) or the hand itself (Metroid Prime 3: Corruption). Even if the game says it's the Grapple Beam, I believe it needs to be changed, but I won't touch the Samus' Brawl page if someone disagree with me. PokemonOne (talk) 09:36, July 19, 2010 (UTC)PokemonOne

The Super Metroid version of the Grapple Beam fires from the Arm Cannon, which is what SSB64 used and the following games copied. It's never been called anything but the Grapple Beam (though it was called the Grapple Lasso in MP3:C), so there's no reason to change it, especially for a minor point like the one you presented. Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy 12:44, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

The only reason I brought this up is because of this page on Wikitroid: http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Grappling_Beam. It states the Grappling Beam appeared in Super Metroid, while the Grapple Beam was present in the Prime sub-series. It also comments about its appearance on the SSB series on the Trivia section of the Grapple Beam page, here: http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Grapple_Beam. Anyways, thank you for taking the time to answer me. PokemonOne (talk) 09:36, July 19, 2010 (UTC)PokemonOne

Well then, that changes things a bit, and it makes it a bit less clear. Accoring to the two pages there:

• The Grappling Beam comes out of the Arm Cannon, can only grab onto certain blocks, and can damage enemies.
• The Grapple Beam comes out of Samus' left arm, can only grab onto things that are classified as grappling points, and can be used to grab (but not damage) enemies.
• The whatever-we-should-call-it in Smash Bros. comes out of the Arm Cannon, can grab any part of the stage (SSBM) or any grabbable edge (SSBB), and can be used to grab or damage enemies.

Personally, I'd keep it how it currently is (Grapple Beam), as it may be the "modern" name for the tool (changing fom "ing" to "non-ing" to match the naming of the other beams). Toomai Glittershine The Stats Guy 12:39, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

You raise a good point. Okay, let's just keep it the way it is. If we try to make sense of Brawl, we'll probably end in a hospice. And since Metroid: Other M is coming soon, and will be the first 3D outside the Prime series, we may get a definitive answer to this question. Thanks for your help.PokemonOne (talk) 11:04, July 20, 2010 (UTC)PokemonOne