Hello! I am Toby Lee Rogers. I am currently the ONLY active user on Smashapedia and I see your wiki has many active editors, and I was wondering if I could post a discussion post or blog post on this wiki to get more editors on the wiki that I'm looking to adopt! The Smashapedia Wiki is currently a wiki that's dead, and needs to be redone entirely.
Plasmaster, i have contacted Fandom Staff about a issue with the "Discuss". Users of this wikia has used inappropriate language, revealed their faces and ages, and creating threads unrelated to Smash within the "Discuss" feature. The Moderators have done nothing to stop this. In fact, they allow this to happen while doing the same and only regulates little. They have violated basic conduct and policy.Most Users of other wikias would find this repulsive and not take your community seriously. Fandom Staff has said that for us to reach a compromise. I would like to share a few ideas on what can be done, but i will wait for your response.
What sort of language is it that they are using? I will look into the sharing of personal information; I don't see a problem with sharing the ages but posting pictures of their faces is definitely an issue. I don't see an issue with creating threads in the Discussion feature unrelated to Smash Bros. as the discussion is for fans of Smash Bros. to come together and discuss and share thoughts and ideas, so long as those off-topic discussions don't involve anything controversial or highly inappropriate. Nevertheless, I'll look into these issues, thank you for bringing them to my attention.
The way i see it, their are 3 roots to the problem:
- The first is the lack of rules in "Discuss". I have searched this wikia and there are no rules regarding that feature. I would suggest looking up other Fandoms to see what they done (i recommend seeing the Sonic News Network Discussion Rules)
- The third being the Moderators. They have allowed this to happen while doing minimal regulation. It's like they become Dirty Discussion Cops. Physiciscool has done more violation as he reavled his face and using language (including innuendo, aa said before). If you will allow it, make me a moderator and i will always report straight to you and promise to keep the discussions clean.
I have looked over the Discuss feature. I think I have found your issue with swearing. Unfortunately for you, that is a personal matter. You went on record saying that "Unless it states it can allow inappropriate language, then we can't. If you don't like it, then go take it up with Fandom Staff." This is a ridiculous statement to make. We cannot have rules stating everything you CAN do. That list would be much too long. The Discussions guidelines go as follows:
1. Be nice and treat people with respect. Keep discussions civil and be open-minded about differing opinions.
2. Threads and posts that solicit upvotes will be deleted.
3. Off-topic conversations will be deleted.
4. Impersonation of other users or famous people will not be tolerated. If you have been banned and return on a new account, your posts will be deleted and your new account(s) will be banned.
5. Spamming, trolling, or vandalizing of any kind will be deleted and will lead to your account being banned.
6. Ask for help. Notice something that doesn't seem right? Or do you just have a question? Contact Wikia Staff through "Give feedback" on the Settings screen.
I will be the first to admit that I personally don't use the Discussion feature. Off-topic conversations will be deleted. However, nothing says that such language cannot be used, only to be civil and treat others with respect. As for your other complaints, (posting pictures of faces, ages, etc.), they do not hold water. Additionally, I do not believe that you are able to speak for the Fandom Staff. If there truly were an issue they had, they would come talk to me themselves. I saw that you attempted to act as an authority on the Discuss feature on several occasions. Please do not try to force your personal preferences onto others. As you said, the Discussions have rules. Please leave the enforcement of them to the moderators.
Very well, but please talk to the Moderators so that they can enforce those rules better. However, the users who claim to be younger than 13 must be reported as they are in violation of their Fandom Membership Agreement (and it should not be taken lightly). You investigate them before reporting their profile.
Can you provide examples of users who have stated their age to be younger than thirteen? I have seen no such statements and would like to have some evidence to back up your claims. I will speak with the moderators on Discord to ensure that they understand the guidelines of the Discussion feature. Thank you.
You saw that your Moderators were a part of it, but they did not report to you or Fandom Staff. This is why the "Dicuss" has gone south, two of your Moderators allow things like this to happen. You must give them a warning. And should you need someone you that can report to you directly, i'm the man for the job.
Fine, that will be all, but i expect better from them from now on. Fandom Staff told me to ask you to deal with those users and your Moderators, so you do what you will in order to restore order. We both know Fandom Staff involve in community matters are a last resort, so you must not let it come to that. I will be watching...
This is a screenshot from an email received after making my report. All the same, it's your responsibility as an Admin to deal with these kinds of problems when they arise. Your community used to one the best in gaming, but now, it's just......you can change that. Take new steps, find new staff you can trust with responsibilities (not including me), create a report thread or something similar. All i ask is that these problems are to be dealt with now, or else you might be doing something like this in the (near or far) future.
This screenshot you posted is of a response to a complaint you made, not an explicit request from Fandom staff for you to speak to me or deal with these issues. I am dealing with the situation, rest assured. I require no further updates, thank you.
Then i am done here. Oh...one more thing, It seems the other two Admins have gone inactive (with the other's last contribution made on June 2 of last year). I do hope you make the right choice in for their replacements. It look forward to seeing how you will handle this. It's been a pleasure, Plasmaster.
The discussions have been deleted, but i have taken screenshots of them as evidence. Believe it or not, one of your users have posted ILLEGAL NUDE PICTURES on Discuss. If you like to see them, just ask. However, that is a serious offense that cannot be ignored...and collateral that must be payed (since some users are below the age of 13). You must take new steps immediately or i will be force to show them to Fandom Staff and have them take action
I'm dealing with it, you need to leave this to the mods and I, please do not message me again. One of my moderators has already contacted me about this on Discord and I am dealing with it. The person who posted them will be banned. Future issues will be dealt with as they come, as soon as possible, under the authority of the moderators and myself. If you message me again, I will block you.