Today, I have provided a perfect and in-depth reason on why Joker is very clearly a F tier character. Likely somewhere between King Dedede and Little Mac.
The 2nd Official Tier List significantly lowered Jokers tier rating meaning that will probably keep happening. And eventually he will be the worst character in the game. And as we know, that list is very good and not really stupid and super inferior to the first one that almost the entirety of the community agreed with.
Secondly, Joker is slow. He's ONLY the 11th fastest character in the game which is below Little Mac (I didn't fact check that but I'm a gamer so I know I'm right) which means he's worse than Little Mac. He also has a much worse comeback mechanic because the main game characters were blessed with having broken comeback mechanics and stupid moves.
Speaking of good moves, Joker has none. Gun, Forward Smash and Back Air all are inferior to other character Neutral Special, Forward Smash and Back Airs like Jigglypuff how has an infamously good Neutral Special and incredible Forward Smash. And moves with Arsene don't do enough damage to make up for it. Joker doesn't even really have a counter.
How we should redesign him is by making him a sword character. Since sword characters are so under represented, especially in the DLC, I gave Joker a sword, a counter Down Special, a strong but slow Neutral Special, the same aerials and Smash attacks as Marth and Lucina and give him boring ass taunts. I feel like this will be a step in the right direction and really make fans want to spend money on this character.
(nintendo, you can just email me. I'm free anytime)